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aruzinsky
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: SodaStream Reply with quote

See http://www.sodastreamusa.com/.

I first heard about this when Sean Hannity advertised it on his radio show.

According to http://www.sodastreamusa.com/Sodamix-Flavors-C12.aspx, enough root beer flavoring for 12 liters costs $4.99 ($0.83 per two liters).

According to http://www.sodastreamusa.com/60L-Carbonators-C38.aspx enough CO2 for 120 liters cost $29.99 ($0.50 per two liters).

So, excluding the startup cost, this soda costs $1.33 per 2 liters. Where I live, I can usually buy big brand names such as Mug and A&W on sale for $1 per two liter bottle. Store brands such as Big K cost around $0.75 per 2 liters. Seems to me that SodaStream is marketing to suckers.

But, if you add your own Root beer flavoring, the cost can drop to almost $0.50 per 2 liters. In the video, flavoring is added after carbination. Does anyone know whether flavoring can be added before carbonation without voiding the warranty?
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: SodaStream Reply with quote

It's not really a warranty issue, it just doesn't work to add the flavor first - trying to pressure carbonate with flavor already added causes extreme rapid expansion (think shaking up a can and opening it). It's not a problem though - adding the flavor afterwards works fine, and you don't have to add their crap, you can add your own after and it works fine.
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: SodaStream Reply with quote

But, the obvious alternative is to buy a seltzer bottle such as this,

http://www.creamright.com/product/SODA-MO-100-BA.html for $40.

I know from experience that you can add flavor before carbonation. And, the CO2 cartridges here

http://www.creamright.com/product/SODA-110-KAY.html

cost $0.40 per liter of soda.

Peter wrote:
It's not really a warranty issue, it just doesn't work to add the flavor first - trying to pressure carbonate with flavor already added causes extreme rapid expansion (think shaking up a can and opening it). It's not a problem though - adding the flavor afterwards works fine, and you don't have to add their crap, you can add your own after and it works fine.
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: SodaStream Reply with quote

Peter wrote:
It's not really a warranty issue, it just doesn't work to add the flavor first - trying to pressure carbonate with flavor already added causes extreme rapid expansion (think shaking up a can and opening it). It's not a problem though - adding the flavor afterwards works fine, and you don't have to add their crap, you can add your own after and it works fine.


I bought two Primo Flavorstation 110s for $30 each on Ebay. That's the same price as a CO2 tank. The Primo website "store locator" falsely lists stores as distributors. I went to three listed stores and they never heard of Primo. The CO2 tank is the same kind that is used for paintball. Supposedly, some paintball dealers can refill the tanks cheaply but it isn't food grade CO2. Otherwise, you have to buy a replacement tank from Primo. Thus, you may as well buy an entire Flavorstation just to get the tank. It's still a better deal than SodaStream.

I have successfully used this to carbonate artificially sweetened root beer. Success depends on the amounts and types of solutes in the root beer. Root beer made only with small amounts of essential oils and flavor chemicals, but NO FOAMING agents, can easily be carbonated with the Primo Flavorstation, although it voids the warrantee. I flavor one gallon of water, at a time, before carbonation. I doubt that this would work with sugar sweetened root beer. Also, if sugar gets into the release valve, it will gum it up. There are no such problems with artificial sweeteners such as aspartame.
  
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